9 Graduates Lose Case Against New York Law School
The New York Law School in TriBeCa was sued by graduates who said they had been misled after failing to find jobs as lawyers.
Amid a challenging time in the legal industry, a growing chorus of law-school graduates are bemoaning the lack of job opportunities.
One judge does not want them complaining in his courtroom.
Melvin L. Schweitzer, a New York Supreme Court judge, dismissed a lawsuit brought by nine graduates of New York Law School who accused their alma mater of misleading them about their postgraduate employment prospects.
While expressing some sympathy for the students’ plight, Justice Schweitzer said the action had no merit and was essentially a case of caveat emptor — let the buyer of a legal education beware.
“In this court’s view, the issues posed by this case exemplify the adage that not every ailment afflicting society may be redressed by a lawsuit,” he wrote.
College graduates “seriously considering law schools are a sophisticated subset of education consumers, capable of sifting through data and weighing alternatives before making a decision regarding their postcollege options,” Justice Schweitzer said.
The decision deals a setback to a flurry of similar cases filed across the country, and it comes at an uncertain moment for both the legal academy and the law profession. For the second-consecutive year, the number of those taking the law school entrance exam has sharply declined, reflecting a view that the sluggish legal market will continue to retrench. And while most graduates of top law schools continue to secure legal employment, alumni of less-prestigious institutions are having a hard time finding work....
Here is the ruling and the rest of the article is interesting. But I love the fact reality is finally hitting these kids. Yo guys, there are only so many positions out there for lawyers and you are not guaranteed what you want. But have a plan for when that fails. If you had some history you might have remember the wisdom of Benjamin Franklin, "The only thing certain in life is death and taxes."
Maybe the wisdom of Ted Baxter will help...
They should have learned to drive a truck. They would have been much more useful to society.
ReplyDeleteAnd they would not be in debt for 100k plus on day one of work.
DeleteYou sound excessively bitter.
ReplyDeleteI know, I know. Society seems to give the educated more respect and honor than they do their blue collar counterparts. Sometimes in opposition to practicality. Frequently in spite of the impressive achievements of the self-educated.
Still, if you'd like to preserve a shred of hope that you'll someday get a taste of the external validation you seem to desperately crave, I recommend you try to contain your childish glee in moments like this.
Better still, be an adult. Be humble, shut up, and do your job. If it burns you up that much, get a post-grad degree yourself.
Obviously I agree with some of what you're saying. Prospective students should exercise their due diligence before making a decision. It's also a possibility that the petitioners are being spoiled.
However, in your rush to pass judgement and declare victory over the 'privileged', you're blinding yourself to the possibility there is more of a story here. As such, you're doing yourself and your followers a disservice.
Changes in the accreditation system have allowed too many law schools to open up. Some of these schools are engaging in questionable or downright illegal practices in order to stimulate demand for their product. Manipulating graduate success statistics, misrepresenting career services available at their school and downplaying the costs of attendance by hiding fees or arranging complex assistance programs.
Undergraduate institutions are essentially colluding with these schools by setting up guidance offices that act as agents for these schools instead of working in the interests of the students paying them for impartial advise.
This is not how free market capitalism is supposed to work.
I don't know what's going on in this particular case, so it's likely that these kids don't deserve shit. But the whole trend cannot be accounted for by spoiled kids being spoiled. Some good, hardworking people have been duped by this con job. Most often it's the kids who don't come from a background of privilege and are thus particularly vulnerable to this sort of scam. Further investigation, prompted by more cases being brought, is merited.
Don't let your personal vendetta limit your ability to see multiple sides of the issue.
You sound excessively bitter.
ReplyDeleteI know, I know. Society seems to give the educated more respect and honor than they do their blue collar counterparts. Sometimes in opposition to practicality. Frequently in spite of the impressive achievements of the self-educated.
Hey Bend, you seem to have some serious anger issues. Get your money back from your therapist.
Still, if you'd like to preserve a shred of hope that you'll someday get a taste of the external validation you seem to desperately crave, I recommend you try to contain your childish glee in moments like this.
Yo bro, advise from someone a bit longer in the tooth. Don't care. Once you don't care what others think of you it's very liberating.
Better still, be an adult. Be humble, shut up, and do your job. If it burns you up that much, get a post-grad degree yourself.
You sound like you’re humble. You probably have much to be humble about if this is what you call cogent writing. BTY I should be working on the master's in the next few years.
…It's also a possibility that the petitioners are being spoiled.
Spoiled may not be the proper word but they need some reality therapy. Then again you may need some too.
However, in your rush to pass judgement and declare victory over the 'privileged', you're blinding yourself to the possibility there is more of a story here. As such, you're doing yourself and your followers a disservice.
A correction on your English. If you quote someone or someone you use the double quotation marks, i.e. ". If you quote within a quote you use the single quote, i.e.' Also what are you quoting? I didn't use the term nor did the article. BTY there are no followers in this blog, there are readers. Or members if you will.
Don't let your personal vendetta limit your ability to see multiple sides of the issue.
Vendetta…"A blood feud in which the family of a murdered person seeks vengeance on the murderer or the murderer's family." I have no desire for vengeance against these graduates. I just find it gratifying that a court has finally told an allegedly aggrieved group no, this is life. You may not like it, deal with it. If you wanted more guaranteed employment try nursing or medicine.
i've never been a fan of correcting people's grammar online, seems like a waste of time. Especially if it comes at the cost of discussing the actual issue at hand.
ReplyDeleteI think I overestimated you. A shame.
Well you are showing yourself the coward you are. You won't discuss the issue at hand yourself. I refuted your arguements one point at a time after you made multiple snide remarks at me. And again, I ask in relation to my correction on quotation marks, what are you quoting? Or put another way, how is making up a quote assisting your argument? If you can't answer a simple question like that ask yourself this question. If your point is so weak you need falsified support, is it worth putting into a post?
Deletesigh... i was using quotation marks to imply ironic tone. i was not quoting you. be serious buddy, who takes one word quotations?
ReplyDeletethis is all deflection of course. you're still avoiding the actual substance of what i've written.
don't worry i'm not holding my breath. the important thing is that anyone stumbling across your ignorant post will have the benefit of learning about what is actually happening here.
“sigh…” I guess simple English is beyond your comprehension. Actually you “substance of what I’ve written” is for the most parts insults to me and on a few issues we agree, e.g. the over abundance of lawyers.
ReplyDeleteI’m not worried about you holding your breath Bend….I think you’re beyond oxygen famine. Please, feel free to leave a final post if you feel like it (as long as the insults are not obscene…I do run a PG-13 blog here.). I’m done with you. Suggestion get out of your mom’s basement sometime. It helps clear the head.
Farewell.