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Showing posts with label Tobacco Issues. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Tobacco Issues. Show all posts

Sunday, November 9, 2014

"roads, bridges and schools...."

I've had discussions with my liberal friends of the wisdom of giving politicians money and a point I've made is you give a politician a buck and they will spend three, then ask for more. In a recent discussion with a friend over the Colorado marijuana legislation, they were adamant that the money was for "road, bridges and schools..." Who hasn't heard that before. I recall in the 1990s when Edwin Edwards, the occasional governor of Louisiana wanted casino gambling and the lottery to fund "roads, bridges and schools..." Well Louisiana has both and the roads, bridges and schools suck, although money from gambling did flow in. And I have no doubt the money that Colorado realizes from marijuana sales will simply be pissed away and not be used for "roads, bridges and schools...." and in a few years another politician will come up with another way to raise revenue for "roads, bridges and schools..." And the usual sheeple will not ask the simple question, "Where did that other money go you swore was for 'roads, bridges and schools'..."

I say this because I was checking out the paper this morning and it brings back an oldie but a goodie, the tobacco settlements of the late 1990s. Now one of the greatest lies perpetuated by the left (and some on the right) is that they want the American people to stop smoking cigarettes. Nothing could be further from the truth. Too much money involved for them to tax and piss away, excuse me, "contribute" and "invest". So what happened to that quarter of a trillion dollars big tobacco gave for "anti-smoking" activities....

Wednesday, March 26, 2014

E-cigs and other issues....

I'm no fan or friend of NJ governor Christie. His firm treatment of reporters and set up citizens is ok by me (God knows many a reporter needs his ass set straight, they are not the representative of the people.) but other than being a lover of the cameras, he is a typical RINO. Now the latest example of this. Last month I posted on the propaganda coming out against the e-cigarette industry and my point is if tobacco is so bad than ban it. But they never will because the government make too much money over the addiction of people. Another example of it.
States push to regulate, tax booming e-cigarette industry

WASHINGTON – While waiting for the debate on electronic cigarettes to heat up on Capitol Hill, several state and local governments are pressing ahead with their own agendas for taxing and regulating the popular battery-powered smoking alternatives.

Right now, there is no uniform national approach to regulating the vapor-based e-cigarettes. They are mostly free from federal rules and typically are subject only to state sales taxes.

But lawmakers in more than two dozen cash-strapped states are racing to regulate them as a new source of revenue. For some, this means tacking on an excise tax -- which is a fee on a specific product, and often dubbed a "sin tax" when applied to socially shunned products like cigarettes.

Minnesota has led the charge and is currently the only state that’s got a specific tax policy for e-cigarettes on the books. The 2012 decision subjects vapor inhalers to a 95 percent tax that is stapled to the wholesale cost of the product.

According to the Minnesota Department of Revenue, e-cigarettes are considered tobacco products and are subject to the state’s tobacco tax. Distributors there are required to pay the tobacco tax or risk losing their license. Retailers must purchase e-cigarettes from distributors licensed by the state and are expected to “collect and remit sales tax on e-cigarette sales.”

In total, Minnesota estimates it will bring in $1.16 billion from all of its tobacco taxes in fiscal year 2014-2015.

Other states are taking notice.

In his 2015 budget proposal last month, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie pitched a plan to hike taxes on electronic cigarettes to match the rate of regular cigarettes -- about $2.70 per pack.

...In recent years, as much as 40 percent of all cigarettes smoked in New Jersey were smuggled into the state illegally, resulting in a loss of more than $500 million in uncollected tax revenue each year, he says.

“By making New Jersey uncompetitive in e-cigarette pricing, the state would encourage smuggling, which will cost New Jersey small businesses tens of thousands of dollars in lost revenue,” he said.

But to some, like New Jersey Democratic Assemblyman Dan Benson, taxing e-cigarettes is not only a fiscal responsibility but also sends an important message to would-be smokers.

“If e-cigarettes are taxed less than regular cigarettes, we’re sending a message out there that they’re somehow safer, and I think the jury is out on that,” he recently told a New Jersey radio station...

OK Mr Benson, if the "jury is out" as you say, how about we wait until the "jury is in" to make a decision on taxing them as tobacco.  We know if the jury says they are less harmful than tobacco you won't cut the taxes back. Oh, Mr Benson, you may wanna read this.
...According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the vapor from e-cigarettes has “far fewer of the toxins found in smoke compared to traditional cigarettes...”
Again, if tobacco is this bad, ban it. But something else is going on. The Golden Goose of tobacco is getting cooked a bit:
The boom in smuggling to avoid cigarette taxes

More than half of the cigarettes sold in New York State are smuggled in from other places to avoid the Empire State's taxes on smokes, which have soared nearly 200 percent since 2006, according to a report issued by the conservative Tax Foundation.

New York is the highest net importer of smuggled cigarettes -- illegal smokes account for 56.9 percent of the state's total market. New York's cigarettes tax is $4.35 per pack, the country's highest. The situation there isn't unique. The Tax Foundation also cites a study that found that 58.7 percent of discarded cigarettes found in five Northeastern cities lacked proper tax stamps.

Taxes on cigarettes, which are designed to discourage smoking, vary widely. States such as Missouri, North Carolina and Virginia have levies of less than a $1 per pack. These wide differences make smuggling "both a national problem and a lucrative criminal enterprise," according to the Tax Foundation.

Antismoking activists have long argued that fewer people will buy cigarettes if they're expensive. Chicago recently raised its cigarette taxes for that reason. Combined with state and local levies, the total is now $7.17 a pack.

The smuggling problem "is a lot smaller than the study lets on," said Thomas Carr, director of national policy at the American Lung Association, noting that the Tax Foundation's data come from the Mackinac Center for Public Policy, which has received funding from the tobacco industry. "Tobacco companies are generally against higher tobacco taxes."

In neighboring New Jersey, convenience store owners are fighting efforts by the state legislature to impose new taxes on e-cigarettes that would nearly double their cost. E-cigarettes fans tout them as a healthier alternative to conventional smokes.

Activists such as the American Lung Association, however, argue that no evidence backs up that claim and others, such as e-cigarettes help people stop smoking regular cigarettes. Nonetheless, electronic smokes are surging in popularity, and experts note that should disparities in e-cigarette taxes develop among the states, they could also become attractive to smugglers.

"I would imagine it would be easier to smuggle electronic cigarettes because they are smaller," says Tax Foundation economist Scott Drenkard. "If you have any kind of differential, you are going to see arbitrage."

That is bull. I've known many friend who have cut back or quit cigarette smoking using e-cigs because it handles the physical addiction (nicotine) and the habit (the actual smoking) while not putting into your lungs the tar.

Again, if I was a bit paranoid I would be wondering if the American Lung Association finds this a threat to it's being. If everyone stopped smoking, they would not be needed....why do I hear the theme to Coast to Coast in my head? :<)

Friday, February 28, 2014

Again, if it's that bad, ban it!

I just finished an excellent Gurkha cigar, came back in to review my posts and found this in my draft file. So I get to look at it again. From the people who have us the National Socialists (Hitler was a militant anti-smoker) and tax rates over 50% before it was popular, we have another example of government run a mock.

EU VOTES THROUGH DRACONIAN NEW ANTI-SMOKING RULES

After three years of tortuous debate, the European Parliament voted and passed the Tobacco Product Directive by 514 votes to 66. Certainly, the sacking by Manuel Barroso of Maltese Health Commissioner John Dalli for allegedly soliciting a bribe of €60 million from a Swedish snus manufacturer did nothing to speed matters up.

The main points of the TPD are:

Banning the sale of packs of ten cigarettes and small pouches of tobacco

Health warnings to cover 65 percent of the front and back of all packaging

Banning of flavours like menthol

Minimum sized packets

Allows member states to ban internet sales, specifically aimed at electronic cigarettes

Regulation of electronic cigarettes


Continuing ban on Swedish snus, a tobacco-based alternative to smoking

Controversially, the speaker of the European Parliament, Martin Schulz, banned MEPs from voting on the individual aspects of the legislation.

They had to vote for it all or none. This had important wider implications on the harm-reduction clauses.

Whether this will lead to a reduction in smoking, and especially in youth smoking, will take a decade to quantify. Europeans remain addicted to the weed: smoking rates have remained static and some countries, like Greece, have actually seen a rise in smoking.

Ireland banned packs of ten cigarettes in July 2009 and still has very high levels of youth smoking. Overall smoking rates have gone up too from 29 percent to 33 percent of the adult population in 2013.

However, the people most exasperated are the 'vapers', those who smoke electronic cigarettes (e-cigs). The British MEPs of all parties were most keen to stymie the clauses on e-cigs, as there is increasing evidence that many long term and heavy smokers have quit in greater numbers by using these than by going cold turkey or using nicotine replacement therapy.

Parliament has banned the concentrations of nicotine allowed in refills, where the need for the drug subsides. One 'vaper' suggested it will make e-cigs like "sucking on a straw."...
A point I would like to make is recently (within the last two years) I've seen a lot of propaganda on the dangers of e-cigs. And something like this doesn't happen from out the air. This leads to the question why is this coming out. I would say the reason is if someone is using an e-cig (as either a replacement of regular cigarettes or used to help the smoker quit) they are not buying a pack a day of Marlboro's. So who looses out then? First and foremost, big government. Most of the cost of a pack of cigarettes is taxes, it's not profit. And an e-cig is taxed as a regular product, not a tobacco item. One of the greatest lies put out is government wants people to stop smoking.
Ridiculous, there is too much money involved.

But again, if the intent was to end smoking becuas sit's too danger a item, fine. There is a solution. Ban the product.

Oh yea, right, that means there is no tax revenue coming in. Wait, is the to point of this?

Naaaa!